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Where is Your Witness?

"Every precept is a chain, every line is a link to their own derision. They're binding themselves to the millstone which will be cast into the depths of the sea."  -EVA
Where is Your Witness?
by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
Is your witness in the anointing or in the wisdom of man (the millstone)?
-- The wisdom of man is the inflated placebo.
-- The anointing is the true life of God.
-- The anointing does not deal with issues, or events, but opens the eyes to give understanding to the heart to set the captive free.
-- When the anoint is absent, ministers set the anointing in fables and psychological persuasion borrowed from the text of scripture.
Many generations of tradition have to be plucked up and removed. This is what God is doing now as the axe is laid to the root of the tree. Learn more… Study the transcription below and listen to the recorded teaching.
Transcription: Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
Date: August 24, 2015
Scripture: Hebrews 1:1 & 11:1
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In Hebrews chapter 11 the Apostle Paul brings to the attention concerning the history of the church. It's good to read Hebrews chapter 11 first and then go to Hebrews chapter 1 because we see that “God (Hebrews 11:1), who at sundry times and in divers manners...”
Sundry times and divers manners  has to do with different times and in different ways, God
continued to communicate. And He does the same thing today, He hasn't changed. In 6000 years God hasn't changed, regarding communicating to the church since the time of Adam and Enoch, Seth, and the Patriarchs, even to this present time.
So in Hebrews chapter 11, he says
Vs 1:  “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”
What he's saying right here is regarding the substance. He's talking about that it's the present evidence of a revelation that was received.
When Abraham reciprocated to the revelation of God, that was substance. He was laboring with the revelation regardless of the circumstances or the contradiction that existed. So, by faith Abraham did this.
We see that the substance is manifested within the activity, and we have substance for our faith today, which is manifested in the activity, which has to do with the building of the church; the expressing of your charity, which is evidence of that faith: a substance is present, a living Witness.
God has always provided a witness in regards to this form of communication, regarding every covenant. In every covenant God has always provided a witness of His presence. When he rained fire down from heaven upon the tabernacle of Moses, or, when He appeared to Moses in the burning bush, that was the first indication of this confirmation, that this confirmation would follow the temple.
The Fire of God’s Anointing is His Witness
The fire appeared to the stewardship, and the fire appeared also to the priesthood when it came down upon the tabernacle. That's a substance. That's the Witness which is from above. Our Father provides us a Witness.
The anointing works in us and through us. That's the fire which is from above, which Moses saw in the burning bush (the bush didn't burn), and the fire that attended upon the tabernacle, the fire that consumed the wicked in Nadab and Abihu. Nadab and Abihu died by fire, while Moses was preserved by fire.
We have that same thing today. If we were to use the gifts of God with the aspiration, the anointing on accompanying it would stand within an offence, being profane. But when the anointing labors (works with the knowledge) then the salt is present for your sacrifice of charity.
Every sacrifice should be salted with fire. That's what Jesus talked about, “and every sacrifice should be salted with salt” (Mark 9:49). Now that salt....Jesus made reference to that regarding the fire. The knowledge which we speak is accompanied by fire: the fire of God consumes, the fire of God purges. It removes, and it establishes; it brings separation and at the same time, it cleanses the heart. That's the wisdom of God as the two-edged sword.
God is doing the same thing today, regarding the circumcision of the heart is by the anointing. If the anointing is absent, the circumcision of the heart doesn't take place. It doesn't take place because your baptism is absent. We must be baptized with fire, as John the Baptist also affirmed the temple. Jesus Christ is that temple.
The fire ascended upon the temple/tabernacle of Moses, the fire descended also upon the temple of Solomon, the fire also descended upon Jesus' head at His baptism, and the fire also descended upon the day of Pentecost because it was affirming the record. It affirmed the record of Moses, it affirmed the record of David, it affirmed the record of Jesus, and that is now being fulfilled in the church today, even as by fire. This is what Paul is talking about: “he should be saved as by fire” (1Corinthians 3:15).
So, here we see a substance and Hebrews chapter 11:1, “Faith is the substance of things hoped for..” It's an accompanying witness until the fulfillment. So, God's fire is accompanying us all the way to the Baptism of Light.
But the Comforter, which you received, shall abide with you forever (John 14:16). He shall teach you all things. That means, the Comforter, being the Holy Ghost will set order. Being the truth—He is called the Comforter the Truth.
This Truth [not the truth(s) of man’s philosophy, but this one truth]. That means order will be set within the frame of your experience. So, you're not wandering in the wilderness, or digging wells, or looking for breakthroughs, or living in expectation of a word from the Lord. You're working with the anointing now.
This is that fire, this is that salt, that's preserving you. And when it's preserving you, now there's remission of sin. If the fire is absent, there's no remission of sin.
So, are you saved because you carry your Bible? No. Are you saved because you can quote John 3:16? No. Are you saved because you go to church (to the false religious system church)? No. Are you saved because you sing in a religious band or Christian band? No. Are you saved because of water baptism? Absolutely not! Are you saved because you observe the Sabbath day? Never will happen. Salvation comes through the anointing, and that anointing is the Lord, Himself. God is a consuming fire.
Jesus breathed on His apostles in order to relate to them a new birth. Even as the Lord breathed into the nostrils of Adam, and he became a living soul, so He breathed on His apostles a new knowledge. This new knowledge is going to make your soul living again—You shall be born again. I'm going to breathe in you this fire, He says, And you shall be born again. But in order for you to receive this experience you have to obey what I'm going to tell you.
I want you to tarry at Jerusalem, and ten days from now, I'm going to visit you. But I'm going to come not in the form of the flesh, but in fire, as I spoke to you before: “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, He shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.” (John 14:26) So you can see the activity of the anointing is to draw upon the knowledge which they had received in order to build and to bond.
The Foundation = The Apostolic Pattern
Abraham looked for a city which has foundations. What are these foundations he is looking at? Apostolic pattern. Well, how do we know it's the apostolic pattern? Because the names of the 12 apostles is put within the foundation of the Holy City (Revelation 21:12-14). “He looked for a city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God.” (Hebrews 11:10)
That which the Spirit constructs is built upon that of the knowledge of the apostolic, which means the stewardship provides this knowledge. That they will believe on me through their word, as the Lord said, was Jesus speaking those things, that they will believe on me through their word, goes all the way back to the pattern of the Holy City, New Jerusalem.
My city shall be built upon this knowledge, and my city, being built upon this knowledge, the gates of hell shall not prevail against it because each gate [of my city] is a pearl (Revelation 21:21). For through grace and suffering you're going to overcome because you're building upon the stewardship, which I anointed.
“Abraham looked for a city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God.” And we also continually reflect upon that and we also view this in the same manner as our father, Abraham. Those that view the kingdom of God according to that pattern and that foundation will enter into those gates.
But those who are skeptical, those who are doubting and double-minded, those that are not laboring with these things, those that follow the spirit of error, the spirit of mischief; that which is the spirit of wickedness because the whole world lies in wickedness, (as the apostle John said; 1 John 5:19).
Which means it's in pursuit of the aspiration. The current of the aspiration is taking them away and drowning them. But the Lord has provided a greater witness, a substance, which is Eternal.
Are You Binding Yourself to the Millstone?
So, our debate with those on Facebook and Twitter is not in comparison of precept with precept. With precept with precept you can debate forever. The Pharisees and the Sadducees did the same thing; they debated precept upon precept, line upon line. Every precept is a chain, every line is a link to their own derision. They're binding themselves to the millstone which will be cast into the depths of the sea.
That's exactly what the Lord testified of the city of Babylon. [“And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.” (Revelation 17:5)
He [mighty angel] picked up a millstone and cast it into the sea, “And thus with violence will they be cast down” (Revelation 18:21) because it labors with the tokens of this world. You know what a millstone is, right? It grinds. It grinds the wheat. And the wheat is of the soil [which represents], the knowledge of this world.
The knowledge of this world is only the parchment, which Adam used in order to conceal himself as he hid among the trees. The parchment is the leaf. It's called the leaf for a reason; the parchment is called a leaf because Adam concealed himself behind the law of his own moral code. And that's why God called out to him...the fire says, Adam, where are you? Adam where are you?
Again, God addressed: His judgment toward Adam was according to the knowledge Adam embraced. You want to rule as a god by the knowledge which you received of the serpent, but now the soil is going to be your judgment. You shall labor, and it shall not yield to you. The law will not work for you, Adam, but my Spirit will.
Many ways and diverse manners, different seasons, different ways God communicates. You can think about some of the ways in which God communicated, turning to Hebrews chapter 1. God communicated through a burning bush, as an example. God communicated as a still, small voice, God communicated as concerning lightning and thunder, a roaring sound. God communicated through the lips of the donkey, as another example.
Hebrews chapter 1:
Vs 1: “God who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,”
Diverse ways (manners); many different ways, in many different seasons.
And God still does it today. 
Even as He spoke to Samuel. God spoke to Samuel in the tone of Eli, but it was God that was speaking. God spoke to Samuel, He called him.
In the Absence of Stewardship, Darkness Came Upon the Church
The lamp, the candle, the oil went out in the tabernacle. The tabernacle was dark. And the darkness came upon the church. And God is calling His stewardship again, in order to give light to the tabernacle, or to bring knowledge to the soul.
The oil of the lamp stand now has been set within the heart of the righteous. And the oil is burning in the heart because the stewardship now is functioning. So, we have stewardship and priesthood.
We talked about that Sunday, when Mary, being of Judah, met Elizabeth, who is of Levi (the stewardship of Judah and that of the priesthood of Levi, now joined themselves together), and the babe leaped in her womb, which means, it was ready to labor. It was like an awakening: now the axe is laid to the root of the trees—the root of the trees, which has to do with many generations of tradition have to be plucked up and removed. That's what God is doing today.
Is the Anointing Leaping Within Your Womb?
The anointing is leaping within your womb saying, Arise and Labor. This is the time to arise and labor because “the time is at hand”.
Again that's another manifestation (or substance; the anointing). So, faith.....
We know that faith is obedience to the revelation. We know that there's 3 forms of faith, as concerning the gift of knowledge and the fruit of faith. This right here has to do with that which God is nurturing within you so that you can abound in it, your faith can increase.
The apostles inquired of the Lord regarding, Lord, would you increase our faith? And the Lord reflected regarding a particular parable: If you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, as He pointed out, You shall say to this mountain. Now, when he says if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, he wasn't saying Now go to the mountain and tell it to move. He wasn't telling them to do that. This was concerning it's increase. And they were asking Him, petitioning. Yes, your faith can increase. It increases if you use it.
If you abuse it, then you're burying the talent, which means, the bartering tool, if it's buried is not going to increase your profits at all. If you want to profit in your charity and you want to profit in your faith, you have to use it.
We know that this Saturday is IPA (International Prayer Assembly). If you want substance in your faith, then labor with it—praying in the spirit, praying in tongues, offering your sacrifices, attending the assembly whenever possible.
Faith is the substance of things hoped for, which means the Witness is accompanying you in order to bring about the expected goal, the expected revelation.
Abraham was obedient to the Lord, and in conclusion, he received what he petitioned God heir. Was it because Abraham wanted a baby? No, it wasn't because Abraham wanted a baby. He had many children through his servants. But an heir (to the knowledge), that's what he wanted. He wanted a steward to carry on this tradition of revelation.
And God said, I will give you a steward that will carry on the tradition of this revelation because I know Abraham, that he will teach his children my way. He will teach them my commandments, and how to fear me, as God testified of Abraham. 
I know, Abraham, that you will do these things, and I will provide you a steward, an heir...but it will be supernatural. I'm going to give you substance. And speaking, he said that Sarah your wife will be the one that's going to bring forth the next steward, which is going to carry on this tradition and this knowledge (in following him). That's why he says, “And your seed” (Genesis 9:9).
Jesus is now overseeing this propagation, as the prophet said, “He shall see His seed” ... speaking of the Messiah (Isaiah 53:10), He shall see His seed, speaking of the disciples,. “He shall prolong his days”, speaking of His resurrection. “He shall see his seed, He shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.”
Are You Reciprocating the Joy of the Father?
You are that pleasure! You are that joy! As it says, Jesus was speaking about, that this joy, “My joy might be fulfilled within you...that your joy may be full.” (John 15:11) This is my joy, this is my pleasure. This is my gift for you in order for you to reciprocate to my Father for the purpose of this journey, which you're in, to get back into the bosom and enter into the gates of the Holy City.
“Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen” (Hebrews 11:1).
This is the expected outcome of nothing that's provided for you at this present time—not seen: “the evidence of things not seen.”
Your lifestyle is a witness, when the Spirit came upon you, you spoke in tongues. That's the Spirit now that's accompanying your faith for the purpose of this expectation. A true promise, a true expectation—not a false promise, not the promise of pretense or, you could say, a false pretense. The indication and sincerity might be present, but the outcome won't be there.
Satan was very sincere in what he said, but of course the outcome was not favorable to Adam. And the wiles of the devil are prevailing in the church today through false knowledge, the doctrine of Balaam, the doctrine and deeds of the Nicolaitans, the teachings of Jezebel...these promises of pretense or pretense of promise will never bring about the favored outcome because our faith....OUR faith is built with substance. Their faith [that of the false religious system] is built with wishful thinking for positive outcome.
The faith of the world, which is false faith, is only built upon the pretense of their promises and wishful thinking. They're hoping for a positive outcome, so they've got their fingers crossed.
Now, Abraham, after he received the revelation of God did not start the cross-your-fingers ministries. He reflected upon the revelation. So,
“faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen”, but those that withdraw, God shall have no pleasure in them (We see that in chapter 10, verse 39). He says,
“Now, the just shall live by faith (verse 38), But if any man draw back...”
What are we drawing back to? You're drawing back into the moral code, the confidence of your moral code. Because, since you were born into this dimension of the flesh, you used your experiences of the flesh to draw conclusions about what your reality and the future of your reality would be. The moral code assisted you in order to make those choices in order to direct you into that which you're expecting.
So, if any man draw back” from the revelation of God, the new record. The record of Christ is the true record, where the record of man is the lie. “And all liars shall have their part in the lake of fire (Revelation 21:8). All those that follow the rhythm of their own record, replacing the record of Christ, shall be cast into the lake of fire.
So, “if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him”. There we see the word, pleasure again. We see the word pleasure there in verse 38, chapter 10. You can draw a line from the word pleasure in vs 38 to the word please here in Hebrews 11: 6, which has to do with has to do without faith, it is impossible to please Him: the word please and the word pleasure → Faith meets God's expectations.
How Are You Approaching God?
The false religious system approaches God on the conditions of their sincerity, which has to do with their emotional expression. They feel God will hear them because they believe in that form of expression; the yearnings of their soul. Well, that provides a sharp contrast.
As an example, a child is being served a meal, and there's two things being served to him, which have to do with like frozen peas on one plate, and a brownie and ice cream on another plate. Now the frozen peace on that one plate, the child is going to view those things in the light of what he wants. The child says, I don't want the peas, I want the desert...I want this over here. This is what I take pleasure in. This meets my expectation. But those frozen peas over there are tasteless, there's no taste to them. They're just frozen peas that have been microwave, and loses its taste. This is tasteless.
The sincere emotions of those who believe in God, but yet are not laboring with him, are like those frozen peas before the throne of God. God is looking at those things, and He says, You're providing me tasteless emotion and sincerity. But these, the righteous over here, are giving me what I want. This meets my expectation.
If you want a relationship with God, then you've got to give to Him what HE wants, not what you want. The false religious system is giving to God what they feel He wants. But God has already communicated what He wants. He says, I want my Christ. Why are you giving me yourself? I want my Christ, and if you want to present to me what I desire in Christ, then you have to walk by faith. That's what Jesus said: “If you love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15). You have to reciprocate what I want, not what you want.
The false religious system is basing their dependencies of their worthiness upon the emotional expressions and sincerity of their own moral code. God looks at that as slop, as dung. It's not that which God favors. He says, This is not what I want. You offer me what you think I want, but I already provided for you that which I desire in Jesus Christ.
The Moral Code speaks of Guilt, but Faith Speaks of Jesus Christ
So, “Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”
In other words, those which draw back unto perdition (see the word, draw back, Heb 10:39); instead of following through with the revelation, they're falling away to the aspiration. Instead of embracing the revelation, they're falling away with the aspiration, which is called perdition, which means it's a destructive habit.
“But of them that believe to the saving of the soul”
See the words, them that believe? We are not of them that draw back to perdition. They're following in rhythm just with their own aspiration, the religious aspiration and the moral code. The moral code speaks to them about the conditions of their guilt, but faith speaks to us about Jesus Christ.
The false religious system preaches of how to resolve the guilt which they feel in their conscience. So, they give them a form of psychology, as Paul talked about there in the book of Colossians: when he talks about, Beware of those things, particularly the tradition of men and the psychology of the's philosophies and the psychology of it. When he's talking about psychology, he's talking about all the nuances and variables of one's soul, the conditions of one's soul. The variables of every body's soul is different.
But God provided one point of contact. Instead of addressing the nuances of every individual on the level of themselves, God says, You have to look up, and I'll give it to you. What people are doing, they want God to come down to their level, and that's what Moses said. God is not going to come down to your level. You have to worship Him with the tokens that He has provided for you, and that's your charity, your love towards Him. That's what He takes pleasure in.
God takes pleasure in that which provides our rest. The soul is no longer laboring with iniquity upon iniquity. The soul is now laboring with grace upon grace.
 “The law came by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ” (John 1:17).
The law came by Moses, which charged the Adamite with guilt, and because of the law, guilt was magnified. The guilt is not only magnified by the law but is exposed by the open conscience...when the conscience is open.
I'll give you an example of that: Let’s say it just rained and you see a puddle of water. So, you take up a stone, 10 to 20 lb stone. You stand back a good distance from that little mud puddle, and then you throw the stone and allow it to land in the center of the puddle. And when it lands in the center of the puddle, it's going to make a good splash. Now, when it hits, the water separates, like makes an opening, doesn’t it? And within a few moments after it makes an opening, notice what happens...the water starts to rush back to that point of origin of that other words, it closes upon that stone.
When God opens the conscience, it's like the rock that hit the water. It [grace] opens the conscience, and then it's presence soon becomes clouded over again. It opens and then it closes up again. After it closes up again (the rock now is covered with mud and everything), once it closes up again, the individual now has to make a choice of the direction he's going to take.<<
You see this throughout the scriptures, where it says, And they shall know....And they shall know...And they shall know that the Lord has done this...They shall know. God opens the conscience in order to press guilt upon the mind and then the conscience closes in on itself and now God stands back to see what their choice will be—if they will seek him or not. See the word seek there? If they will seek unto the Lord, or not. That's after the open conscience.
Now, the conscience is closed, as the water rushes back in, and God is now going to watch their choices. If they choose derision (that is to say, the darkness—“men loved darkness rather than light” (John 3:19), then God sends wrath. If they choose grace, then God sends mercy. (That's His mercy there.)
So this is what it means “to the believing to the saving of the soul” (10:39).
The conscience having been opened and now being closed, the guilt has been exposed, and now the guilt has been removed. The guilt is removed by the choice of His mercy, and now the conscience can be purified and made clean.
“But without faith it is impossible to please Him.”That's in verse 6 (Hebrews 11).
But without faith, which means, apart from this pattern. We see Able and Enoch mentioned here (verses 4 and 5): By faith Able offered...By faith Enoch was translated.”
They both followed the pattern of revelation and in expectation of a positive outcome by the revelation; not by the aspiration, but by the revelation. And both also had to be patient upon that conclusion.
We also are patient upon the conclusion of that. And the Lord brings the results. It's God that brings the results. This is where your trust develops—through this contact. God brings the results. All we have to do is continually reflect. And the tasks He has assigned for us to perform is the labor we put our hands to.
Are You Operating Within the Frame God Sanctified by the Anointing
“But without faith it is impossible to please Him.”
So here we see that it was put down to this one thing, without faith it is impossible to please Him. WE have to operate within the frame that God has sanctified by the anointing, and we meet His expectation perfectly.
Faith is the equity of God's eye. Faith, to God's eye, is like a beautiful sunset, or a field of tulips, in the early spring. Or, it's like an orchard that has its fruit bright and ready to pick. Like right now, the season for picking grapes is very close, and the heat of the sun has provided the assistance for the purpose of bringing these grapes to the point now of its perfection so that it meets the equity of the vine dresser.
“But without faith it is impossible to please Him.”
This is the equity of God's eye: your faith. Do you want to please Him? If you want to be as the pupil of His eye, you have to walk by faith. There's a lot of people who take the pupil of the eye in regards to their culture or their tradition, or their selection of text. No, the pupil of God's eye is faith. And you are walking by faith.
“But without faith it is impossible to please Him.”
“For he that comes to God”, which means that your approach to Him must be on His terms,
“must believe that He is” The revelation that He provided, you have to follow through on the terms of the covenant; “and that He is the rewarder” (highlight the word, rewarder there in verse 6) which means He gives gifts of propitiation for a continued relationship. The reciprocation of our Father is based upon our behavior towards Him by faith.
If your reciprocation according to His terms, then you are the crown of His delight, like the woman is the crown of the husband, the wife is the crown of the family. Her reciprocation to the husband receives gifts from him. You can see the reciprocation there, being the crown. She's following through. The procedure is that she is following through on the things that please him, and he reciprocates with more gifts.
Well, God does the same thing. God put that design within the church. And this is what Paul was expounding on, that the husband loved the wife even as Christ loved the church. See the reciprocation there.
“without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he that comes to God must believe” [as to
acknowledge, mold with and submit to]. So, here we see faith in reciprocation right here being the apple of God's eye (the pupil);
“for he that comes to God” (on these terms) “must believe that He is” (concerning the rewarder)
“and that He is the rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”
There's the word seekthere.
That means that you continually lean towards the grace. As God continually reveals Himself, you continually lean towards that. You're bonding with Him. That anointing is a bonding power because its fire unto fire, light unto light.
We, as children of that baptism of fire, are going to enter back into that inheritance, to the throne of fire. For God is a consuming fire.
[Eric vonAnderseck serves the Body of Christ as a confirmed Apostle in the government of God. He is the founder of Second 8th Week Ministries & founder of the Network of Apostles Today. He is the IDCCST® Christian Education Curriculum author and author of over 100 ground breaking books and articles, spearingheading the return of the apostolic calling and anointing to the church.
Apostle Eric ministers extensively nationally and internationally. He is the pioneer of the new apostolic age and recognized as the leading authority in the fields of church growth, foundation building, spiritual gifts and spiritual warfare, and the leading voice in the transition of the church into the new apostolic season and reformation.]

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